Pricing for Dedicated (Unshared) Connection?

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Posted by XoCluTch, 10-30-2016, 04:37 PM
I am currently putting together a Small Business for VPS hosting. I am a bit behind on putting together a lot of the code and back ends, but I'm sitting on more servers, bandwidth, and other hardware then i know what to do with. I have (2x) Supermicro SYS-5017C-MTF 1U Rackmount Server, w/ Intel Xeon E3-1230 Sandy Bridge 3.2 GHz LGA 1155, Kingston 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR3 1333. That are warming my house doing nothing. (4 hard drive slots SSDs of WD REDs) EVERYTHING is redundant, my fiber connection is currently unused. I am thinking about selling one of this servers on a 10 mbit connection for $300/month, this would be a fulling redundant un-shared connection, for this pretty high end server. With 32 Gigs of RAM, and 4 free hard drives, pretty much anything you want. Does this seems like something people would be interested in? Or is the price to high? I actually have over 7 of these servers, and several other ones, Like I said, I'm just looking to get a few bucks to cover some of my bandwidth costs until I can finish setting up for VPS side of my business. I would be able to provide 24/7 on-site support. 300 dollars for UN-share dedicated 10 mbit connection isn't that bad of a price is it? I see a lot of these offers but most of them seem to be shared connections. Sorry if this sounds like an advertisement, I'm really looking for solid advice. I Have more servers and bandwidth then I know what to do with!
Posted by AndriusPetkus, 10-30-2016, 04:46 PM
Server with 10Mbps in 2016? No Also "server in house" do not look very serious, price is too high even you offer it with 100Mbps for that price. It is not better to colocate somewhere and rent it? Many data centers offers this server configuration around $100 - $150 with 1Gbps ( limited bandwidth ).
Posted by XoCluTch, 10-30-2016, 04:49 PM
but most of these company's offer 1Gbps, but only 2 TB transfer/month ( 5mbit at 100% utilization), a 10mbit connection at 100% provides almost 4 TB/month So in reality is it not the same connection? just unburstable?
Posted by HumaneHostingOwner, 10-30-2016, 04:57 PM
Standard hovers at 10TB to be honest. For truly reductant connections you would have to splits out at LEAST a dedicated 100Mbps feed.
Posted by AndriusPetkus, 10-30-2016, 04:58 PM
Everybody needs speed. Using 10Mbps full speed all the time ( ~3TB ) and using burstable 100Mbps or 1Gbps ( ~3TB ) is not the same.
Posted by user54321, 10-30-2016, 05:26 PM
haha nice joke. you would have go to 20$-30$ down with the price to get a customer, for 50$ you get that server with 1 gbit shared unmetered who would be so stupid to go for such a crappy deal?
Posted by Criot, 10-30-2016, 05:29 PM
There are a lot of companies offering that sort of hardware for a much cheaper price and actually in a datacenter - If you're serious you should first of all colocate in a datacenter. Even if your connection is redundant, there are many other differences between you and a datacenter. How secure is your house in comparison to a datacenter? Is your electricity redundant? What security systems do you have in place? Do you have the ability to expand in the future? At such a price point it's not going to work, and the majority of home connections now days are higher than 10Mbps, so that isn't going to work for a server.
Posted by HumaneHostingOwner, 10-30-2016, 05:32 PM
Not even Cox delivers 10Mbps upload, the last time I checked their plans included only 5Mbps upload. So you MIGHT be right on the download but good luck getting decent upload speeds.
Posted by Criot, 10-30-2016, 05:35 PM
If you read my post you'll see I said most, not all. Even so, 5Mbps is half of 10Mbps which is quite large for a home connection in comparison to a server - A server is *PROBABLY* going to use more bandwidth than a home connection (depending on usage) and therefore 10Mbps, in real world modern day usage isn't going to attract very many people at such a price point.
Posted by user54321, 10-30-2016, 05:35 PM
who cares? go to europe in countries which have ftth, i currently have 1000/500 Mbit/s for 60€ per month without a bandwidth cap.
Posted by XoCluTch, 10-30-2016, 05:36 PM
i don't remember saying these servers are in my house, they are outside of a data center, however, in a private data center, for an unrelated company. I have a small portion of it I own. It has all the bells and whistles of any data center.. The bandwidth gets cheap, but only if I pay for faster connection, Upwards of 1gigabit/10gigabit per second. The price gets down to less then $1 per megabit, but then I'm stuck in a contract with the ISPs.
Posted by XoCluTch, 10-30-2016, 05:39 PM
and FYI, I have plenty of room to expand, I have 46 Fibers run to this building, each one supports 10 Gigabit/s, before getting into Multiplexing x16 each fiber at least? The problem is the ISP is not going to give me 10 Gigabit second for free, It runs about 3-4k/month ( i believe )
Posted by user54321, 10-30-2016, 05:41 PM
you will use them as heater till you upgrade the connection to 1 gbit or go with the price down to a tenth of it.
Posted by HumaneHostingOwner, 10-30-2016, 05:43 PM
That's interesting because AT&T as well doesn't allocate at least 10Mbps full duplex. only allocate our 12Mbps download contract with a 1Mbps upload. My points being where are you getting that the "average" house contains at least 10Mbps/10Mbps of usable throughout? Given that I gave two reputable ISPes that don't allocate what you claims.
Posted by XoCluTch, 10-30-2016, 05:50 PM
So how do most other company pay for the start up costs of a 1gigabit/10gigabit connection, before having enough customers to pay for it? What does a 1 gigabit connection normally cost for in a data center unshared, dedicated?
Posted by Criot, 10-30-2016, 05:55 PM
Let's also take into the account the fact that we're clearly living in different countries and taking different things into account. Yes, there are still ISPs and areas which do not get such full throughput, however, taking into account download speeds, most household connections are above 10Mbps, upload is certainly going to be lower than that for most. But what's your point here? For most modern day SERVERS a 10Mbps connection will not suffice at that price point, would you pay $300 for such hardware and such connection? In fact, scrap that question, you seem like the type of person to say 'yes' just because.
Posted by HumaneHostingOwner, 10-30-2016, 06:03 PM
About a grand or so is about right for a 1Gbps unmetered feed.
Posted by Mike_A, 10-30-2016, 06:35 PM
An E3-1230 v1, 32GB RAM and four standard HDDs on 10Mbps would probably go for $70/m. Nobody wants 10Mbps, nobody wants E3-1230 v1 when you can get a maxed out E3-1231v3+ with SSDs for sub-$100/m with minimum 5-10TB on 1Gbps. Unless you're selling this in some country with horrible connectivity in Asia, middle east, or South America, I doubt anyone would ever buy this. Sorry.
Posted by user54321, 10-30-2016, 07:28 PM
or at Hetzner serverboerse for 26€ with 20 TB bandwidth on a dedicated 1 gbit line.
Posted by user54321, 10-30-2016, 07:35 PM
well you can consider doing folding at home and boinc to do something usefull with the servers because i don't think you will be able to get money out of them, even on ebay you get only a few bucks for that hardware because it is so old.
Posted by AndriusPetkus, 10-31-2016, 03:31 AM
Starting with 1Gbps dedicated/10g burstable. It is not easy to start company from 0, I recommend do not dream about profit.
Posted by SenseiSteve, 10-31-2016, 01:56 PM
Agreed - this is simply a matter of having to deal with competitive pricing.
Posted by Arya Ro, 11-01-2016, 06:47 AM
You need speed and stable connection. What is your internet provider's uptime. Check that!

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