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How many domains are required to overload the web server?
| Posted by bandwidthking, 08-04-2013, 08:35 PM |
| I got a reseller account with 20GB disk space, 200GB bandwidth.
I am curious typically how many domains can it host before it become overcrowded?
Let's say the websites are 70% wordpress based, 20% Joomla/Drupal, 10% others.
I am thinking of 500 domains or more? Since the server has 16 core processor with 32GB RAM, fully SSD on MySQL and files.
Thanks.
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| Posted by NetworkPanda, 08-04-2013, 08:37 PM |
| It isn't the number of domains which matters, but the total amount of traffic.
If you have only 5 high traffic sites, the server can be overloaded. But if you have 200-500 very low traffic sites, this server with 16 CPU cores and 32 GB RAM should be fine.
Last edited by NetworkPanda; 08-04-2013 at 08:43 PM.
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| Posted by dale, 08-04-2013, 08:49 PM |
| It really depends on the site and how it works during high traffic. The number of domain names and the software would not matter very much at all at low traffic...
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| Posted by fshagan, 08-04-2013, 09:16 PM |
| If you have a reseller account from a hosting company you don't have 32GB of RAM. You have whatever is allocated to you, or whatever someone else isn't using at the time, so a lot depends on how many other resellers are on that server. If it is your server, and you have it set up as a hosting server, and you are the only "reseller" on it, then you do have the resources.
Most of the Wordpress sites I've hosted run anywhere from under 100MB to over 500MB, depending on the content. Even at 50MB of disk space each, you are at only 400 sites. So I doubt you will get 500 sites on it. But its possible, I guess
Processor loading and disk I/O, even with SSD drives, could be a problem, though.
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| Posted by PremiumHost, 08-04-2013, 10:58 PM |
| Are you thinking of 500 domains on a whole server or just for your reseller account?
If you plan to host 500 domains in a reseller account then it is definitely not a good business plan.
Regarding your question, one domain/website with very busy traffic can overload a server.
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| Posted by Wes0805, 08-04-2013, 11:17 PM |
| I was able to fill a large VPS with 400 low traffic sites before moving to a dedi. That VPS was only getting a load of 1 on average. Memory was 4gb. Those were student sites with mostly portfolios in it.
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| Posted by bandwidthking, 08-05-2013, 09:14 AM |
| Thanks for the info. I am thinking of 500 domains with low traffic website.
If it is high traffic site then it would be wise to request them to upgrade to VPS.
Furthermore, my package doesn't allow them to host high traffic site because I am not planning to sell more than 10GB diskspace plan.
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| Posted by fshagan, 08-05-2013, 11:34 PM |
| So how many of those 500 sites with 10GB of diskspace are your going to fit on your 20GB account again?
Overselling can be useful to fully utilize resources, but it can also be a consumer rip-off.
You will be faced with either allowing a rarely used photography site to use up half your allotment, or violating your agreement with them over disk space alone, even if they don't violate other resource limits. It borders on fraud, when done that way, so you have to think about ways you can trick your customers into thinking they have more than they do, and how you're going to approach kicking them off your service when they dare to try to use what you have promised them.
You might look for reviews of the worst web hosts, and then copy their TOS and AUP; it won't be as good as it is for them, because they have their army of lawyers helping them cheat people, but it might protect you from some lawsuits.
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| Posted by RRWH, 08-06-2013, 12:12 AM |
| Let me think about this for a second.... Typical WP site uses around 200Meg of disk, you have 20 gig, so at an absolute MAX, provided you only allocate 200Meg to each client, you would fit in 100 into your allocated 20G.
Now your question as to how many domains overload a server- that is easy -> somewhere more than 0. It might be not even 1 of you think of a high traffic site that is clustered (facebook, google etc) or it might be hundreds or more sites showing off pictures of the cat etc.
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| Posted by BestServerSupport, 08-06-2013, 10:04 AM |
| 500 domains in reseller plan is something I would not recommend. I would rather suggest you to go with a low cost VPS plan of Linux in which you will get dedicated resources.
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| Posted by bandwidthking, 08-07-2013, 02:05 AM |
| So it is more of the diskspace issue rather than CPU issue here if I were to hit 500 domains in a same server.
Then I will put 20 customers for this 20GB diskspace to make it comfortable for everyone. In any case the diskspace reach 90% full, then I just upgrade to the next bigger plan.
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| Posted by instantaccess, 08-07-2013, 02:38 AM |
| If you have a reseller account, start selling and when you hit 20, upgrade, then at 50 accounts, which I presume you are being paid for, upgrade to a nice VPS, and when you get to 150 accounts, upgrade to a small dedicated box, and so forth until you have a nice little business going.
When you make money, you should offer value to your customers. Don't give them an overloaded reseller account. Take a fair profit, and invest in your business. You cannot grow if you are losing customers as fast as you are bringing in customers. The only way to grow is to serve your customers well so they never leave, then every new customer is like a pay increase for you.
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| Posted by BrianHarrison, 08-07-2013, 02:55 AM |
| If you're operating out of a reseller account, then whether or not the server is overloaded isn't up to you--it's decided by the host that manages the physical dedicated server.
If you want to be able to manage the load on your server, you'll need to upgrade to either a VPS (with decent isolation) or a dedicated server.
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| Posted by Webhostpython, 08-08-2013, 10:55 PM |
| I was going to say this until I reached your post. Right on point.
It really isn't up to you whether your server gets overloaded, so starting with a reseller would be nice just to over overhead prices. But once you've done that, move to a VPS so you can start offering more to your customers and open your income revenue streams. Don't rely on numbers like "xxx domains ,now it's time to upgrade".
Don't focus on profit too much until you've gotten a valuable VPS or server you can now feel comfortable with and grow your business. Those are my two cents. Spend a little more today, and save a headache tomorrow
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