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What is Alpha Reseller?
| Posted by hostaq, 02-17-2011, 10:10 AM |
| I would like to know what is the difference between standard and Alpha Reseller?
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| Posted by Forward Web, 02-17-2011, 10:15 AM |
| Alpha Reseller is an account that lets you create additional reseller accounts under one reseller account.
Generally speaking, its not a good idea to offer or use Alpha Reseller plans. If you were looking to offer reseller web hosting, you would be better off just getting your own dedicated server.
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| Posted by no69_2007, 02-17-2011, 12:01 PM |
| there are 3 standards.
Reseller Hosting -> It can create shared hosting accounts.
Master Reseller Hosting -> It can create Reseller Hosting Accounts as well.
Alpha Master Reseller -> It can create Master Reseller Accounts as well.
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| Posted by SercoNetworks, 02-17-2011, 12:14 PM |
| So we have: Datacentre > Server Owner > Alpha Master Reseller > Master Reseller > Reseller > End User
I feel sorry for the End User, who probably has no idea that they are being hosted by three resellers, any of which could disappear instantly.
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| Posted by Dustin B Cisneros, 02-17-2011, 12:22 PM |
| This is not true... just because some one purchases a reseller doesn't mean there is 2 unknown resellers hosting him.
Your understanding of Alpha Reseller and Resellers is not quite there.
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| Posted by SercoNetworks, 02-17-2011, 12:54 PM |
| Yes, I know that
I was just making a point of how many resellers it was possible to have before the end user.
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| Posted by ldcdc, 02-17-2011, 12:58 PM |
| But, it can be the case, as he detailed.
My usual worry about this type of arrangement was the support chain when the server admin would need to take action, but his mention of the host simply disappearing is equally troubling.
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| Posted by HostXNow_Chris, 02-17-2011, 02:32 PM |
| Quite scary when you put it like that.
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| Posted by no69_2007, 02-17-2011, 04:56 PM |
| aahahhha, really nice answer.
but some times direct server owner host end users as well.
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| Posted by SercoNetworks, 02-18-2011, 07:46 AM |
| Did you read my post? I was purely giving an example of how many resellers was possible before the end user...
Server owners hosing end users would be the majority of hosting companies, I'm not sure what point your trying to make?
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| Posted by TBradley, 02-18-2011, 12:35 PM |
| I could not of possibly said it any better myself! Personally, I recommend staying away from Master or Alpha for this very reason, among others I will not even begin to bring up!
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| Posted by JixHost, 02-18-2011, 03:33 PM |
| To answer your question, Alpha resellers can sell Master reseller, Reseller and hosting accounts. Master resellers can only sell Reseller and hosting accounts and Resellers can only sell hosting accounts.
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| Posted by CodyC, 02-18-2011, 03:50 PM |
| It is very confusing. I believe you can do Super Alpha now (can create Alpha resellers). It just doesn't sound real stable!
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| Posted by no69_2007, 02-18-2011, 05:39 PM |
| I mean to say that some times direct server owner are hosting clients directly as well.
you got?
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| Posted by bqinternet, 02-18-2011, 06:19 PM |
| What will they think of next? Ultra Beta Super Master Resellers?
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| Posted by thewantedhost, 02-18-2011, 06:49 PM |
| I'd stay away from hosts that offer Alpha reselling, and maybe even Master reselling, unless there charging a large amount of money.
Servers get clogged up very quickly.
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| Posted by ldcdc, 02-18-2011, 08:02 PM |
| With the right limits (on space, data transfer and/or number of accounts that can be created) and the right pricing, alpha master etc. should be stable enough. The other problems remain, as does the reliability of the software used for creating and managing alpha accounts.
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| Posted by thewantedhost, 02-18-2011, 08:05 PM |
| I can honestly say the only Alpha reselling plans I have seen have been unlimited - or near to it (10TB bandwidth/space).
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| Posted by foobic, 02-18-2011, 10:20 PM |
| Honestly all these levels are so complex and restrictive. I have a concept for a totally new standard in reseller plans: Infinity reseller. It's so simple: Each infinity reseller can sell shared hosting plans, reseller hosting plans and infinity reseller plans. Just think of the advantages:
Quick ROI : Since the plan you sell has exactly the same limits as the one you buy, you can sell it for the same price and break even after a single sale!
Recursive hosting : Following on from the above, and assuming no price differences, Provider A can sell an infinity plan to Provider B, who in turn sells the same to Provider C, who sells the same back to Provider A. Result: all three providers get their hosting at zero net cost! Any other sales are pure profit!
Quick support response : In the above scenario, if any of the providers has a problem they can bypass the entire support chain and submit a ticket to themselves!
I think I'm really on to something here...
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| Posted by KMyers, 02-18-2011, 10:25 PM |
| Hello,
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| Posted by rainer, 02-19-2011, 02:28 PM |
| hi, im newbie here. but what i think about this Alpha, Master, reseller is just the concept of selling. thats all.. Just like when we buy something from the market. CMIIW
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| Posted by thewantedhost, 02-19-2011, 02:30 PM |
| This is how it works:
Data centre
Co located server/dedicated server with DC
(NOT ALWAYS HERE: VPS)
Alpha reseller
Master Reseller
Reseller
Shared User
Delete as necessary, but do you see the problem? You have alpha resellers selling all 3, master resellers selling 2 and resellers selling shared hosting, you get the "viral" effect. Nasty.
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| Posted by rainer, 02-19-2011, 02:36 PM |
| you right..
but still, how do we recognize difference between Alpha Reseller, Master Reseller and Reseller Only? because some hosting who have the capability to do as Alpha Reseller they can choose to sell only Shared Hosting and Reseller Hosting and we dont know it
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| Posted by thewantedhost, 02-19-2011, 02:39 PM |
| You can start by checking the name servers.
Usually alpha hosting do not do white label hosting, so just check the company that the DNS relates too.
Apart from that, I'm not entirely sure.
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| Posted by PlayHost, 02-19-2011, 11:01 PM |
| Agreed. Rates that seem too low will generally be fly-by-nighters, at least in my experience.
Unlimited reseller plans? Yes probably a bad idea. But, unlimited shared? As long as the TOS is pretty tight regarding file storage and such, I personally don't think there will be many problems. It's a marketing ploy; a very large majority of end users don't end up using more than 1-2GB of space (and more consistently, about 200 MB for a well established website).
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| Posted by Faris Aziz, 02-19-2011, 11:16 PM |
| Most Alpha/Master host nowdays are offering White-Labelled DNS and their server seems to be fully white labelled. Some time, host didn't realized that their email address associated with the server is still not white labelled. For example server@host.com. When you terminate an account you can see the email address. This will allow their sub resellers to know who their host is a reseller of.
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| Posted by awais005, 04-16-2011, 04:01 AM |
| alpha reseller hosting with you creat reseller accout master reseller account and shared hosting accouts i don't know about standerd .
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| Posted by justjohn, 04-16-2011, 03:50 PM |
| It would be advantagous to the end user if hosting companies stated where they are in the chain.
How would you find out before purchasing / opening an account with hosting company?
TIA
John
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| Posted by Net-Buster, 04-17-2011, 01:08 AM |
| stay away from "Unlimited Alpha Reseller Accounts" as high chances are that you will land up at an oversold server with no payment refunds written in tiny letters in TOS.
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