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Posted by all-expert, 04-11-2007, 04:21 AM |
Hello all,
I just found a website about hosting ************.org
I am surprised about their offer they are providing reseller account with unlimited space and unlimited bandwidth( unmetered i think).
and they will let you sell unlimited shared hosting + unlimited reseller under your reseller?
above my head
See this
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Comment guys
[Note: I have checked their who is privacy and even found that their ssl is already expired)
Regards
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Posted by kavitakhanna, 04-13-2007, 03:24 AM |
i m also surprized with their packages but i also do not have any idea how their service is.
Kavita
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Posted by WebHostingNeeds, 04-13-2007, 05:21 AM |
They sell unlimited reseller account to all their clients, but have only limited servers. Most unlimited hosts don't know what they are saying and will never allow big or large number of sites hosted on their unlimited everything hosting plan.
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Posted by EssEss, 04-14-2007, 02:55 AM |
Once I had a talk with them over online chat, and they flatly refused that they offered any money-back-guarantee. Also I didn't find any support ticket kinda think on their website. When asked the person gave me some numbers.
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Posted by sTag-Dan, 04-14-2007, 06:14 AM |
Numbers for what?]
All-expert: If it's too good to be true, then it probably is. Stay away.
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Posted by all-expert, 04-14-2007, 05:38 PM |
Agree, i am gonna stay away from them in place of service you will get nothing just cheap price i think so
Regards
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Posted by vaidyasp, 04-20-2007, 08:28 AM |
Yes its completely fake
They give you the space and bandwidth but with so slow speed that it takes months to upload 1 gb.
I bought 2gb webspace and domain name with ************, after paying by credit card for 2 days i didnt got any official mail from them, enven they didnt replied my emails except auto responders. After 3 days finally they activated my hosting and domain but didnt gave me control panel for domain. The domain was registered with their name only.
The next process was to upload my content, the claimed uptime and performance didnt worked out in my case it took about a whole day for uploading my 20 mb content of website. The website is offline for about 1-2 hours a day.
After a long time the website started working but with a very slow processing and data speed. It takes about 4-5 seconds for generating a page from php script as compared to .1 - .2 seconds in my previous hosting. And now the dont pick up my phone, dont reply to my emails and no technical support. They also refuse my online chat request.
So this is the fact, no body give anything for low price. Be far from them.
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Posted by premium20, 04-20-2007, 10:37 AM |
I think they use hostdepartment for hosting these accounts. Not sure if they have a dedicated or not, but a cursory look at their plans gives jitters.
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Posted by Adam H, 04-20-2007, 05:03 PM |
First impressions are everything. I closed the tab as soon as their site loaded. (When it finally did)
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Posted by hostcurry, 04-20-2007, 05:37 PM |
Pity is they are very above in google rankings, So most of the people are getting into the frauds
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Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 04-20-2007, 06:09 PM |
I have also seen them on Google adwords and on many other places.
But one thing is for sure, most of us know that there is no such thing like unlimited. So its pretty simple that these kind of host are targeting people who either don't know much about hosting, or who search for like "cheapest hosting" on search engine.
Hosting is not just space and bandwidth, its reliability, stability and support that matters in the end.
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Posted by all-expert, 04-23-2007, 03:38 AM |
yes surprising how come ppl giving them so much orders, while they don't even have ssl
They are so sweet when u going to buy , and don't know you when you got service from them
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Posted by MTempster, 04-23-2007, 03:55 AM |
I have never heard about them before. Try to reserch google with theirdomain name for more informtion.
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Posted by varshadembla, 04-23-2007, 04:31 AM |
i have heard many instances of their support. Would recomment you to stay Away...........................
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Posted by Flying Panda Bear, 04-23-2007, 04:43 AM |
I've never heard of them before.
I feel sorry for anyone that gave them money... My spidey-senses tell me that they won't get that back OR get the service they paid for.
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Posted by ImageLeet, 04-25-2007, 02:21 PM |
what i know about them is they are pretty much all over the google, but havnt find any review or feedbacks to support.
do some parliamentary research before deciding
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Posted by crystalz, 04-26-2007, 03:39 AM |
wow ! must be having overloaded servers then, stay away !
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Posted by scrapme, 04-27-2007, 03:49 AM |
Unlimited Domains kind of stuff are purely marketing gimmick (we also do that). It's a human nature which needs more and more.
Let's accept this; If, you are buying a plan which allows you to host unlimited domains and other fetaures, will you host unlimited domains there? On an average resllers host not more then 100 domains on a single account.
So, what I belive first decide your requirement and then choose a host and by the way an expired SSL doesn't mean host is bad. Even some times you will find bigger hosts also have expired SSL.
One more thing; Whois records never gives you a clear picture about the host. If, you look at the technology used by them (whois) is now have no relevance (it's outdated).
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Posted by scrapme, 04-27-2007, 03:53 AM |
have you hosted with them?
Personally I never come across with them, but if, they are providing this kind of service then I really feel sorry for you.
I am looking/tracing them quite from a long time. They have good marketing budget as you can see their ads all over google and on all the major Indian sites. New customers never try to research, they choose hosts which are visible to them (through advertisement).
Learning from them I am also increasing my advertisement budget
Last edited by scrapme; 04-27-2007 at 03:56 AM.
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Posted by vB-WP-Admin, 04-27-2007, 05:34 AM |
Yup look like they are using Adwords to the fullest, do they offer trial period? If so just try them out and check for yourself how they perform.
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Posted by Asher S, 04-27-2007, 11:48 AM |
Templated website, .org domain name for a commercial website & ultra cheap costs. Yeah, I'm sure you can't go wrong with them ;-)
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Posted by scrapme, 04-27-2007, 12:09 PM |
DOT]org is used to showing up his domain reseller program and as a DirectI (resellerclub.com) reseller he gets that site for free and everyone gets that. ORG is not his commercial site instead visit ************[dot]com
Please if, you are not able to help any one then not ruin his business too.
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Posted by Asher S, 04-27-2007, 12:28 PM |
I don't recall saying anything that would 'ruin his business', thats my input, my remarks, my observation... nothing that would 'ruin' anyones business.
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Posted by scrapme, 04-28-2007, 02:36 AM |
Sorry, my mistake I get that in wrong way.
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Posted by dits59, 05-04-2007, 10:48 PM |
First of all thanks to all for such a variety of feedback about ************.
im also impressed by their plans.But i think there is something missing with them when i asked for ASP.NET 2.0,AJAX during the chat.Also im not satisfied with their trial.I decided to go for GoDaddy.
Their website is verie bad which created doubts regarding the company.And the main cause is that since they are also providing website designing and their website is looking verie bad.
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Posted by dits59, 05-06-2007, 12:09 AM |
Check out this link
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im sorrie bcz i spammed for posting a hyperlink.
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Posted by Mxhub, 05-06-2007, 02:01 AM |
Too good to be true. Make sure you backup your data regularly.
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Posted by web_host_analyser, 11-15-2007, 07:09 AM |
Are You searching for a web host for your site. Have you come across the name "************" (If not then you are lucky). You will surely find their offers so lucrative thatll hard to resist. So If you are going to buy Any service from ************. Stoppp for a while..!!
Let I tell you what they provide
Hi-speed and connectivity [A perfect Lie, I can bet on this. They are heavily overselling their space and so their servers are tightly stuffed.]
Unlimited webspace and bandwidth [With so slow speed that 1 MB takes 10 Minutes to upload]
Free Java, ASP.Net and All Database [You will die in frustration after sending them 10-15 mails for activating each service]
Money back Guarantee [Dont assume them so genuine, you are not going to get even a penny back]
99.99% uptime [Actually around 70-80%]
High Security [Actually No Security]
FTP Access [Just error you may face; Control connection Closed ]
Quality Services [Sorry the term Quality is not in their dictionary]
Email Support [Only 1-2 out of 10 Email IDs work, where you can send your problems through e-mail ]
Tech Support [You problem have very few chances to sort out within the week you reported]
Phone Support [Only 2-3 people are handling calls of customers from all over the India and abroad, You can imagine that you call is not going to be connect in first chance. If connected you will be speaking with a personal who knows pathetic English. Moreover, Mon- Friday and 10am-6pm is actual time you will get support]
Their Unlimited and Free kind of stuff are purely marketing gimmick. Everything on their site is just to allure you and as you will pay the money, you feel trapped. They are BIG CHEATS. The Worst you can imagine has already happened to me. They just deleted my personal website and all content without any notice.
Please Feel free to spread the word and help to SAVE others.
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Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-15-2007, 07:43 AM |
Hopefully you won't be falling trap to similar offers in future.
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Posted by verticalgrowth, 11-15-2007, 02:23 PM |
they are a low profile web hosting company we have our site still there but not working properly.
We are trying to shift to some other company or to own server.
I don't think they are that much bad but surely they over sell
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Posted by Mikey this way!, 11-15-2007, 02:39 PM |
When someone says they offer something Unlimited, I don't hear the rest. I just go away
I'd recommend staying away from them.
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Posted by godesigner, 11-16-2007, 06:13 AM |
I checked their ReverseDNS. It redirects to godaddy.
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Posted by itsrakeshsingh, 11-16-2007, 02:24 PM |
Manas hosting should be advised to rename their company to mananas hosting since mananas means Tomorrow because this would explain their company's slogan. Everything on manas hosting would be pushed to tomorrow. Look at the offers they provide, Brilliant.. but wait it would become a nightmare if you just become their client... yea I agree they don't proclaim the things they don't provide...
a. Reliability: We offer no Reliability and your site can come to a halt anytime LOL.
b. Response time: Sir, please hold on I am just looking into the matter. sir please could you email your problem to problem@************.com. And if you start emailing, your mails will bounce. A very frustrating scene... They don't even realise that the client is on a STD call Brilliant ************... Just keep up your good work. At least you provide us the entertainment.
c. Providing resources: You must compromise because they are providing it cheap. So please never over use their resources as they don't have much... Not even a Toll free number... Great. If you dare to use much of their resources,( I don't know how they calculate this) your site would be completely deleted and you will be advised to change your DNS.
d. Tech Support: Fully entertaining and you will have lots of fun. I agree they are brilliant in amuzing but technically they are cipher. If you disturb them and call back again, they will not even care to pick up the phone...
As a whole hosting your website on ************ is very entertaining but never a good venture. Please do stay away from them....
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Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-16-2007, 02:58 PM |
Welcome to WHT Rakesh, it seems you had you share of fun with ************.
BTW I seriously don't believe in such kind of amusement and fun. Web Hosting is not fun, its a serious service, I don't know when people are going to realise this.
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Posted by itsrakeshsingh, 11-16-2007, 04:42 PM |
Thanks vinsar...
But I tell you its dooming India's progress.Creating a bad impression and creating a mockery of web hosting technologies.
************ is not going to learn because we have a natural habit of standing in a long queue even if there is a sale of bad and poor quality of products. Unless we experience ourself we are not going to learn from other's reviews. I am not being against ************ but the way they operate is ridiculous in itself. Bunch of jokers and unprofessional....
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Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-16-2007, 05:31 PM |
Hey Rakesh, don't get too much worried about India's progress.
Hosting companies like ************ exists in every country and getting burned to learn is a human nature.
But yes in this industry when you are burned, its good to tell others, even if one out of hundred learns from your bad experience, you are doing some good.
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Posted by godesigner, 11-17-2007, 03:36 AM |
Are they godaddy reseller or what? CHeck their rDNS
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Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-17-2007, 06:53 AM |
They are on GoDaddy network, whether reseller or having dedicated box is a different issue, main issue of downtimes sluggish speed, termination of accounts etc etc are simply because of huge overselling and poor management of business.
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Posted by dintis, 11-26-2007, 07:59 AM |
I am one of the victim, we paid for three year 20GB package after talking to them over phone and mail. For all sales enquiries they reply after 3 days with a mail which have so much graphics and pictures nothing as reply to your query. After paying the amount and request for activation they even did not bother to reply for 15 days, I called up all their offices including Delhi and every one played around asked me to forward mails to so and so. After my 5th reminder and warning that we will go to their Bangalore office they replied through someone in Delhi.
After 15 days it activated and in place of unlimited hosting only one domain hosting provided. Many times tried to upload files, never worked. Online chat no one reply. Finally decided to go to their Bangalore office to see what is happening there, they refused to meet.
When we asked to refund the money there is no response.
So finally I am writing off 10k paid to them and thanks to them for teaching a good lesson. Hope no one should get cheated again by them.
I will post what happens when I visit their office at Bangalore again this time with a false id for purchasing a big space, just to meet the real goons inside.
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Posted by JLHC, 11-26-2007, 08:20 AM |
Can you guys who reviewed this company pls provide your website address to the moderators for verification?
It is the standard procedure of
Thanks.
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Posted by rv_irl, 11-26-2007, 08:38 AM |
I completely agree. Web hosting like any other business is a serious business. People need to realise that in some cases, people depend on their website for income to feed themselves and their family. Not delivering on your promises can destroy someones life.
Just because it is easy to enter the market, it does not necessarily mean it is not a serious business.
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Posted by teamdws, 11-26-2007, 10:47 AM |
i hve recenlty purchased an hosting package but after 3-4 days i m not getting the information from the ************ ,when i contacted on phone then the person promise me that he will provide me the information in next 2 hours, but after 3-4 hours i m not able to get the information, and after 3-4 hours i tried to contact on phone but the cell is not replied...
so all u dear dont go for hosting wtih ************ it is totally fake and very poor and bad service..
regards
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Posted by JLHC, 11-26-2007, 11:31 AM |
So did you successfully activated your account?
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Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-26-2007, 11:55 AM |
s loss details are amazing http://www.webhosting.info/webhosts/...ASHOSTING.COM/
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Posted by sanudeep, 11-26-2007, 12:05 PM |
visar nice to be back ...
was having a long chat with a client who wanted me to register domains for him .
as he already take 5gb reseller pack with manas ...
domain he paid but registered after 10 days by them ..
just wondering what was happening ..
client says support is ok ... (for starters i think)
i cant narrate the full story .. talking to him was a experience ..
learned a lot ...
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Posted by qwan, 11-29-2007, 04:32 PM |
I would warn anyone of this. They are everywhere and they have taken a lot google adwords which makes you wonder if they are spending so much on ad they must be a company with good finance. But my friend had told me that there are many sources to get free adwords credit and there are sites you can go after it. So you really cannot trust a company that advertises.
I had done some research when i first heard of them. I did a reverse dns and found they were resellers for godaddy.com. Infact they website(the order page only) had a godaddy layout. Later they kept changing their order pages.
Now it does not look like godaddy anymore. which means they are changing their hosts which means downtime. So for that reason I would stay away.
Oh and i forgot to mention I ended up chatting with them when I found out about godaddy and their friendly support guy just stopped responding after denying that they were on godaddy and insisted they had their own server. When I told them I did a reverse dns he just stopped responding.
the best part is that I was not accusing him I was just going to ask him if their main site is hosted with godaddy. they could be resellers for others companies. Many websites host their mainsite at different location so that if their hosts are down atleast customers can access their site.
But I think I was just overestimating ************ :-P
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Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-29-2007, 04:38 PM |
Whether they are at godaddy or any where else, the kind of overselling they are doing that too without proper infrastructure, it is guaranteed that you won't get good services.
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Posted by helloashok, 11-29-2007, 10:41 PM |
I don't think ************ is reseller of anybody, may be they have 1 or 2 reseller account, which they are continuing. But with so much client they can easily afford dedicated server.
You can not add adwords voucher to your existing account, adwords voucher work only on new account. I think they are spending from their pocket.
From their website and order form it appears they are not properly organised, and their prime aim is generating sales only.
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Posted by Mikey this way!, 11-29-2007, 10:43 PM |
I wonder how people fall for them, really.
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Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-29-2007, 11:29 PM |
If you would have noticed ************.com has whois protection, if they are a valid host, why do they need to hid behind, second if you'll see their name servers are:
Domain servers in listed order:
ns9.************.name
ns8.************.name
ns4.secureserver.net
ns3.secureserver.net
Some more digging will give you:
Name: ip-216-69-150-209.ip.secureserver.net
IP Address: 216.69.150.209
Location: Tempe (33.522N, 111.894W)
Network: GO-DADDY-SOFTWARE-INC
And what a joke:
Website Ownership Certificate
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Posted by db09, 11-30-2007, 12:21 AM |
wow. their web design team is sick w/it.
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Posted by symphonious, 11-30-2007, 11:55 AM |
What is website ownership for?
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Posted by Mikey this way!, 11-30-2007, 11:23 PM |
It is just a load of crap. eek.
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Posted by shakir, 12-01-2007, 03:13 AM |
me also found , good and surprising costs but no idea about their services
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Posted by prashant1979, 12-01-2007, 06:16 AM |
All of you gotta read this
Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Sales'
Sales: I am from sales department
Sales: Hello, thank you for chating with me. Can I have your mail id?
Prashant: I think I have already mentioned it
Prashant: check my details
Sales: How may I help you today?
Prashant: I want to know something about the double dhamaka offer
Sales: Special OFFER .-' One Domain ( Say, .com .net .org etc.) + 2 GB Web Space ( Windows 2003 / Linux ) + 10gb for 100 E-mail ID's (Each E-mail id = 100 MB ) + Free all Databases + Bandwidth (100 GB per month) + Full Control Panel + 5000 tamplate + Free Search Engines Submission = yearly Rs.1500/- and Rs.3000/- for 3 years.
Sales: In this pacakge you will get 2 gb more
Prashant: you say free all databases, does that include Oracle?
Sales: no sir
Prashant: so which databases are supported?
Sales: in our server oracle is not possible
Prashant: why?
Sales: mysql, ms sql, ms access
Prashant: dont't you have a separate server for ORacle?
Sales: no sir
Prashant: ok
Prashant: how can you afford to give so cheap space
Prashant: I have never seen web hosting compnaies sell so cheap
Prashant: I would like to get a demo to test your service
Sales: sure sir
Sales: Visit our website
Sales: go through then you can apply for the trial
Prashant: how fast can I get the trial space?
Prashant: are your servers in India?
Sales: immediately there only you will get the id and password
Sales: server in US
Prashant: which Datacenter?
Prashant: The Planet?
Sales: you can see all the detail is there in the contact us page
Prashant: have you mentioned the datacenter?
Sales: yes you can check
Prashant: the name of the data center is not given
Prashant: it just says Internet Data Center
Sales: i dont have idea sir you can try our trial
Prashant: do you offer VPS?
Sales: yes
Prashant: where can I get the details of the same?
Sales: in the website only left side you will get dedicated server page
Sales: in that you will get the information about the VPS
Prashant: You still did not tell me how can you afford to give away large space for a very cheap price
Prashant: how can I trust if yours is a genuine company
Prashant: and will not get closed
Sales: this is our own server
Sales: you can see in the home page
Sales: this information is written
Prashant: how many servers do you have?
Prashant: and what is the configuration
Prashant: do you own the datacenters in USA?
Prashant: what about the connectivity
Sales: Why Low Price ?
Sales: 1) It is our own server.
Sales: 2) We have a big server therefore lot of webspace is ideal.
Sales: 3) We have a number of branches and reseller all over India.
Sales: 4) Our main motive is to give good service in a reasonable price.
Prashant: who are the backbone providers
Sales: ourselves
Prashant: are you backbone providers?
Sales: sorry for i dont have that much deep idea
Prashant: can you ask your seniors and tell me
Prashant: before hosting with you
Prashant: I want to know the details
Prashant: I have faced problems from many hosting companies
Prashant: who claimed they are big
Prashant: and then shutdown mid way
Prashant: I don't want to take chances now
Sales: then what you want tell me ??
Prashant: I want the answers to the above questions so that we can take a decision fast regarding hosting with you
Prashant: can we have a senior or a technical person in the conversation?
Sales: you can call in 09880422232
Sales: Miss Malathi is available there
Sales: you can talk with her
Prashant: is she in sales or Support?
Sales: she is from customer support head
Prashant: ask her to send me an email on my email address
Prashant: your costs for 2 GB and 3 GB are the same
Prashant: I did not understand what does it mean?
Sales: right sir
Sales: in 2 gb you will get one domain free
Sales: in 3 gb you wont get free thats why we are giving 1 gb space instead of that
Prashant: which is the domain registrar>?
Sales: you can go for 2 gb you will get one domain free
Sales: you paid the payment and send one mail to our billing department in that mail you have to mention your payment detail and your package detail to billing@xx*********** and one copy to enquiry@xx***********
Prashant: I want to know who is the domain registrar
Prashant: I am also looking for domain resellership
Sales: if you send the domain details then we will going to register your domain and
Sales: we will give you control panel id and password
Prashant: don't you know who is the domain registrar?
Sales: we are taking different company
Prashant: like?
Sales: directi ,
Prashant: and?
Sales: send mail to enquiry@xx*********** they will reply you with full detail information
Prashant: don't you have adequate information with you?
Sales: if you send the mail then you will get the information regarding this
Prashant: I think you should have somebody with good knowledge to answer on chat
Prashant: I did not get the information I wanted
Prashant: I am afraid of buying webspace from you now
Sales: how many domains you want to register?
Sales: ?
Prashant: I have around 300 domains
Prashant: which I want to move away
Sales: only 300 ???
Prashant: why?
Prashant: you look so surprised
Prashant: I am a web designer and have designed around 300 websites
Prashant: I am planning to have my own server or VPS to host all these domains
Sales: which persons are taking more than 300 domains they are also not asking this much questions
Prashant: and I may increase the domains to around 1000 in the next quarter
Sales: for proper and full reply you have to send mail
Prashant: do you mind if I have asked these questions to you?
Sales: at a time we are chatting with many persons
Prashant: if that is the case then I am sorry to say I am not interested in hosting with you
Prashant: thanks a lot for all the information that you have provided
Sales: welcome sir
This is a real chat with one of the sales persons of ************. From this you can understand the level of support they must be giving.
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Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 12-01-2007, 06:25 AM |
Prashant, thats bad you are exposing them more than they would desire
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Posted by ashley5, 12-01-2007, 06:46 AM |
hi all,
what r v doin....
The company in consideration does'nt even deserves to be discussed and is getting more footage then it deserves....
No more footage from my end....
so is there any MOD around....(As per my view this thread should be closed now)
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Posted by prashant1979, 12-01-2007, 07:04 AM |
You said it right Ashley. Let us close this topic and get back to work.
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Posted by Mikey this way!, 12-01-2007, 07:33 AM |
Yeah, they don't deserve to be talked so much about.
I'll really laugh at someone who signs up with them and will then come to cry on the forums here.
How can someone fall for them?
I got so irritating while reading that chat script. .eek
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