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Posted by rahuldas14, 09-16-2011, 12:25 PM |
How about using vmware esxi for vps??
I mean I would like some feelback from you guys regarding this.
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Posted by quantumphysics, 09-16-2011, 03:00 PM |
No problem. Are you ready to pay the [large amounts of] money? You have certified VMware guys on your staff? You can't just install it and sell VPS.
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Posted by centauricw, 09-16-2011, 08:48 PM |
VMware is not going to create a tradition VPS where each user machine shares the common resorces of the host (kernel, libraries and such). VMware creates virtual hardware for each host, so the users get was basically a standalone system. And this gives you the advantage of being able to mix and match Linux and Windows om the same host.
But implementing a VMware solution will be very expensive. For reliability, you'll want a multi-host cluster setup so if a host system goes down, the virtuals will be moved to another host system and keep running. This requires a SAN using fiber or iSCSI. And VMware has very specific hardware requirements.
If you want to try out the concept, you can download the free ESXi system for VMware. It only allows you one host and few features, but it's good as training and sandbox system.
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Posted by geo1277, 09-16-2011, 10:35 PM |
I am looking into ESXi also as right now I am using Virtual Iron which isn't supported anymore but still runs my environment very well.
I feel like I have two options Hyper-V which is free for me since I run a Windows Server 2008 R2 environment but still feel I would get more out of ESXi. The cost as I understand is based off of CPU's not hosts and as for the environment it will have a learning curve but so does everything and when you purchase VMware products they supply help with the migration.
Please tell me I'm silly and should just use Hyper-V since i didn't include ESXi into next years budget.
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Posted by centauricw, 09-16-2011, 11:37 PM |
If your using HyperV on a Data Center host, then you get to run as many Windows virtuals as you fit on the hardware without licensing them. If you go to VMware, then you'll need a license for each Windows virtual.
I won't tell you if you're being silly since I don't know your business model. It's going to depend on what you're planning to offer. I use VMware myself and find it works very well. If you want to add Linux to your mix of virtuals, then VMware is probably the way to go rather than HyperV.
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Posted by leckley, 09-16-2011, 11:45 PM |
If you are looking for a 'cheaper' way to do it you can also take a look at Citrix - http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/pr...ntentID=683148
Then you can host just about any OS similar to VMWare.
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Posted by rahuldas14, 09-17-2011, 05:17 AM |
I went through the esxi license. I think we can use it for vps. Its free. Moreover for backing up even a xen or openvz server would need another server and extra cost.
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Posted by rahuldas14, 09-17-2011, 05:19 AM |
moreover vmware esxi is very simple and even newbies can use it. linux has a lot of security issues and a particular level of experience and expertise is needed.
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Posted by quantumphysics, 09-17-2011, 09:26 AM |
It is NOT free for hosting.
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Posted by PCTechMe, 09-17-2011, 09:40 AM |
Datacenter will license a Vmware host and all VMs on the host hardware. This doesn't just apply to Hyper-V. The references you always see about Hyper-V are due to Microsoft specifically referencing Hyper-V but are not excluding other platforms. Ask your SPLA provider or MS licensing specialist for clarification, I did.
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Posted by quantumphysics, 09-17-2011, 09:45 AM |
http://www.vmware.com/partners/progr.../benefits.html
Not free.
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Posted by rahuldas14, 09-17-2011, 10:42 AM |
vmware has some free versions like vmware server and esxi. And I think we can use them. We are not allowed to rent the server but I think we can rest the vms created by them.
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Posted by quantumphysics, 09-17-2011, 10:44 AM |
You're not allowed to rent the VMs created by them without paying/VSPP
All legal issues aside using vmware server to sell vps is the worst idea on earth
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Posted by Maxnet, 09-17-2011, 10:49 AM |
The moment you grant your customers root access to the operating system running in the VM, you violate the license terms of the free edition.
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Posted by quantumphysics, 09-17-2011, 10:54 AM |
Doesn't need to be root - you can install things into your home directory. Still a violation
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Posted by SecureHostRichard, 11-07-2011, 05:13 PM |
Hrm. Have tried a few virtualized solutions for VPS over the years and found VMware to be a pretty solid offer compared to the others.
Let me know your thoughts on what's better?
- Richard
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