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Posted by hostman01, 04-19-2001, 09:04 PM
i was wondering if there are anymore hosting co. that offer unlimeted reselling for one price ex. fasthost.co.uk and donhost.com is there anymore?
Posted by Walter, 04-20-2001, 02:03 AM
I'm not sure... Only thing I know: I would not go with someone offering unlimited reselling or unlimited cars or unlimited love or...
Posted by GordonH, 04-20-2001, 07:28 AM
Hello It works under particular conditions. You could offer 500Mb of space and unlimited domains on that provided the other system resources were not unlimited (e.g. 50 Mysql databases max, 10GB bandwidth limit) You would also limitthe number of these accounts per server so that they were manageable. You would also need to charge for additional IP's if people chose to use them. SO, unlimited domains in one account is possible but unlimited resources isn't. Its a fine dividing line. Gordon
Posted by skysenshi, 04-20-2001, 08:09 AM
Donhost is like renting an entire server. You only get 50GB bandwidth for your entire reseller package so it's not really unlimited. Unlimited domains, yes... Unlimited bandwidth, definitely not. One reseller of donhost I know (Tacidhost.com) got shut down by donhost within 2 days of operation. The owner of Tacid says that it was because one client uploaded illegal material. Methinks donhost is that dangerous, either that or Tacid's owner is lying. As for fasthosts, I've tried them but I haven't tested their limits yet.
Posted by GordonH, 04-20-2001, 08:22 AM
Hello Fasthosts unlimited bandwidth limit is 5GB and as they are in the UK additional bandwidth is very expensive. Gordon
Posted by skysenshi, 04-20-2001, 08:32 AM
5 GB for the entire package!? And they're more expensive than Donhost... sheesh! ... Hello, Gordon, I'm not sure if you remember me but I used to talk to you at the everyone.net message boards and you pointed me to the old host of depressionalliance.org (my name at everyone.net's boards is coolay).
Posted by GordonH, 04-20-2001, 08:59 AM
Hi Coolay, Yes, things have moved on a lot since then. I decided to set up my own hosting company...... Anyway, the Fasthosts thing is falling apart. They just threw off a load of resellers for no real reason except they were using too much unlimyed disk space. Its mad........ but popular! Gordon
Posted by skysenshi, 04-20-2001, 10:13 AM
Wow, we went through the same course. Coolay.com evolved into a hosting business last year too, and then this year we became Venturanza Networks (now with Alabanza). Anyways, I never knew that Fasthosts suddenly threw off resellers, but they are very popular indeed. It says on their page they don't put a limit on the bandwidth usage though. I don't think it's right not to put clauses in their page. Good thing I left at once and am getting my refund.
Posted by donhost, 04-21-2001, 05:36 AM
TacidHost was given 5 warnings within 48 hours. The problems included illegal material, and abuse of system resources. We do not take the decision to cancel an account lightly, remember we stand to loose money by doing so too. However, we endenour to ensure the quality of our service for our customers and thus will not tolerate abuse by one individual. After 5 warnings in 48 hours, we cancelled TacidHosts's account and credited a full refund to his account.
Posted by akashik, 04-21-2001, 07:14 PM
tacidhost uploaded 'illegal' material, or one of their clients did? If it was the host then sure, they deserved to be canned. If it was on of their clients, it sets a lot the blame in the wrong place I would think... Greg Moore
Posted by Red Circle Web Hosting, 04-21-2001, 11:48 PM
yeah! I agree what Greg is saying!Good Point Greg! Chris
Posted by marcum, 04-22-2001, 12:21 AM
If it was a client then why not just shut down the client account and send an email to the hosting company? I'm sure that would have been easier than sending 5 warnings and then cancelling the hosting company.
Posted by Zach, 04-22-2001, 01:34 AM
I dont really see how a host could offer unlimited space for its resellers. Say I offer unlimited space for my resellers and they sign up 80 accounts for $5 a pop they are making 150$ a month when im only charging them 30 sum from the donhost example. As I think gordon said, unlimited domains is possible, unlimited resources is never possible. (Well maybe but never, but close too! Zach ICUServices
Posted by donhost, 04-22-2001, 03:30 AM
When I say 5 warnings, I mean there were 5 separate problems relating to TacidHost in the space of 36 hours. One of them relating to content and the others far more serious. One client was trying to bring the server down. We will work with any of our resellers to deal with problems rather than cancel an account, however on this occassion our concern was not shared by the account holder. We felt that since the account holder did not seem to care about the problems his account was causing, the frequency at which they were occuring and thus the likelyhood of them reoccuring cancellation of the account was the only way to secure the quality of our service for our other clients. I reitterate that TachidHost was given prior warning of the cancellation of their account should they not deal with the problems.
Posted by GordonH, 04-22-2001, 03:31 AM
Hello Well the unlimited domains aren't really unlimited. Limits are a good thing because they keep the systems stable. In practice we only allow 50 Mysql databases and 500 active POP3 accounts per bulk plan so the realistic limit for domains hosted is probably 50 - 100, but If you managed to make 1000 web sites that were 500k then you could pack in 1000, but you would not be able to have e-mail at all of them. Also, in my limited experience customers don't take out these plans to host 100's of domains. We get the odd enquiry from someone wanting to run a free web hosting service on it (the nightmare scenario) which we do not allow. Most users are web designers needing to host clients sites or more technically competent resellers who will eventually move to their own server anyway. Gordon
Posted by skysenshi, 04-22-2001, 01:07 PM
Oh, this is very much believable (that a Tacid client would want to bring Tacid's servers down). Observe their message board (http://www.tacidhost.net) and you'll see how much ruckus there is. It's like a cyber battle going on in there (clients pitted against other clients). Most of the adults do not like that they aren't getting the services that they paid Tacid for (poor customer support, accounts not set up, refunds not given etc.), but the young ones seem to defend Tacid a lot because the owner has a very charming attitude (when the owner has time, he can help you setup scripts, and he seems like a good friend). So it's a tough battle in there.
Posted by Walter, 04-22-2001, 01:14 PM
Yes, very strange things are going on there....
Posted by marcum, 04-22-2001, 02:09 PM
Well I can see they had some problem accounts.. and if they would not contact you about the problem accounts and work to come up with a solution to help minimize problem accounts I can see shutting them down.
Posted by AussieHosts, 04-28-2001, 11:24 AM
I can certainly vouch for the way in which Donhost work with their resellers. A more helpful provider would be hard to find. I could then enter into a 10k account of the extreme unprofessionalism and ludicrious way in which Tacid Host conduct themselves...but I'm busy. :-) Gary
Posted by cabalstudios, 04-28-2001, 04:24 PM
I used to be a Fasthosts customer, there service is not even acceptable, they disable your accounts, without any prior notice. They charge admin fees for removal of service, example they charged me £46 for SSL, when I notified them I dont need the service, they told me they would charge me £5+VAT to remove the service from my account. I am moving onto dedicated servers, someone not in the UK, I will be providing reseller accounts of my own, within 2 weeks. If your interested you may mail me, for more info, as to packages and price. Sorry, I got carried away by Fasthosts unacceptable service, to prove my point about fasthosts and donhost. If you have a Fasthosts account, I would like to warn you of there uptimes, and web speeds, you may check them at www.webperf.net my company is Cabal Studios Internet Solutions, you will see there current uptimes, and web speeds. They aren't very "HIGH" for the amount of hype they are giving there service. Correct me if i'm wrong but Fasthosts and Donhosts look too familar, I think they are the same company.
Posted by AussieHosts, 04-28-2001, 07:38 PM
You are most *definitely* wrong, and should know how to check things like that before posting. I have had one problem with each. Fasthosts temporarily froze our account because our credit card kept failing. Funds were there, but card services at the bank were having glitches. Problem solved. All web sites still ran, we just lost the control panel whilst *we* sorted out why *we* hadn't paid. Fair enough. Donhost reacted responsibly to a spamcop report about one of our domains who went rogue. Need I say more. They are both fine...just a shame they are not located in the US. Why there are at least a dozen hosts in the UK offering this style of reseller account, and none that I have found in the US, defies belief. With the difference in the cost of bandwidth, a Donhost or a Fasthosts in the UK would be a winning move.
Posted by Red Circle Host, 05-03-2001, 08:53 PM
Is there a U.S Company that offers the exact same thing as Donhost?I am looking for 1......
Posted by determinist, 05-05-2001, 11:26 AM
in the first place i thought of signing up with them but eventually notice that sometimes it could took up a few minutes even to load their very own webpage.. hmm.. i think i need better speed then that..
Posted by dasource, 05-09-2001, 04:26 AM
I agree, you dont have to be *clever* to notice the similar products and services offered, i would know because i have been with both of them. I think it is *this* Fasthost's customer service is poor and so they set up DonHost to cover their ass, dont get fooled they are the same. Just look and the control panels that tells you all.
Posted by donhost, 05-09-2001, 04:32 AM
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